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Trent Casto | The Heart of a Discerning Leader, Episode 11

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Trent Casto

It’s incredible what a man who is united to Jesus and weak in the eyes of the world can accomplish” – Trent Casto

Author and Pastor Trent Casto joins the podcast to talk about God’s strength in our weakness. In this episode, he shares ideas and practices that have enabled him to lead in a way that displays God’s grace. From his newly released commentary on 2 Corinthians in the Reformed Expository Commentary series, Trent shares that the heart of all our issues is drifting from the heart of the biblical gospel – either towards our performance, power, and strength or towards a disregard for God’s standards. As you listen, may you be empowered to lead with authenticity that comes from an understanding of the sufficiency of God’s grace.

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Steve Macchia (Podcast Host)
Founder and President of Leadership Transformations
Steve is the author of The Discerning Life,  Becoming a Healthy ChurchBroken and WholeCrafting a Rule of Life and several other titles. Steve has over 40 years in ministry and two postgraduate degrees from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

Trent Casto (Season 27 Guest)
Trent Casto brings an adventuresome spirit and passion for discipleship to his role as the Senior Pastor at Covenant Church of Naples, FL. Trent and his wife Emily have served as missionaries in the Czech Republic and in pastoral ministry in St. Louis, Missouri, Dallas, Texas, and for the last 13 years in Naples. His Doctor of Ministry at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary focused on understanding the challenges wealth creates for spiritual formation. He is the author of 2 Corinthians in the Reformed Expository Commentary series and also of The Rhythm of Discipleship: Living as Fully Devoted Followers of Christ. Follow Trent on YouTube (@PastorTrentCasto) and on his blog at

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Steve Macchia

Founder & President

Steve is a graduate of Northwestern College (IA) and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (M.Div. and D.Min.). His prior ministry includes serving on the pastoral staff at Grace Chapel (Lexington, MA) and as president of Vision New England. Since July 1, 2003 Steve has served as founder and president of Leadership Transformations, director of the Pierce Center for Disciple-Building, and adjunct faculty in the Doctor of Ministry department at Gordon-Conwell. He is the author of sixteen books, including The Discerning Life (Zondervan Reflective),  Baker bestseller Becoming a Healthy Church, and Crafting a Rule of Life (IVP). He lives in the Boston area with his wife Ruth and is the proud father of two grown children, Rebekah and Nathan, daughter in-love Ashley, and papa to his beloved granddaughter, Brenna Lynn and twin grandsons, Aiden Joseph and Carson Stephen. “My soul comes alive singing the great hymns of the church and enjoying the beauty of God’s creation. I’m in awe of God for fulfilling the dream for LTI that he birthed in my heart, for the team he has assembled, and the transformational impact experienced in the leaders and teams we serve.

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