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Philip Yancey | The Heart of a Discerning Leader, Episode 2

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Philip Yancey

“Nature, beauty, love, these are good things. They must have been given to us by God. That’s what grace is. It’s a free gift we didn’t deserve. That’s my story, being drawn back to God, not by fearsome threats, but by the experience of God’s grace.” – Philip Yancey

Award-winning author Philip Yancey is on the podcast this week to share his own life story. He candidly shares about his discovery that God is not the “super cop in the sky” looking for someone to punish but is the giver of all good things – including nature, beauty, and love. Philip teaches us that when we live as if our hands are closed in fists, God’s grace falls to the ground unreceived. He encourages us to live openhandedly and generously because that is how God treats us. Philip ends the conversation by sharing his hope for the Church in our time.

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Steve Macchia (Podcast Host)
Founder and President of Leadership Transformations
Steve is the author of The Discerning Life,  Becoming a Healthy Church, Broken and Whole, Crafting a Rule of Life and several other titles. Steve has over 40 years in ministry and two postgraduate degrees from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

Philip Yancey (Season 27 Guest)
Philip Yancey is the author of twenty-five books, including The Jesus I Never Knew, What’s So Amazing About Grace?, and most recently, his memoir, Where the Light Fell. Yancey’s books have garnered thirteen Gold Medallion Book Awards from Christian publishers and booksellers. He currently has more than seventeen million books in print and has been published in over fifty languages worldwide. He and his wife, Janet, live in the foothills of Colorado.

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Steve Macchia

Founder & President

Steve is a graduate of Northwestern College (IA) and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (M.Div. and D.Min.). His prior ministry includes serving on the pastoral staff at Grace Chapel (Lexington, MA) and as president of Vision New England. Since July 1, 2003 Steve has served as founder and president of Leadership Transformations, director of the Pierce Center for Disciple-Building, and adjunct faculty in the Doctor of Ministry department at Gordon-Conwell. He is the author of sixteen books, including The Discerning Life (Zondervan Reflective),  Baker bestseller Becoming a Healthy Church, and Crafting a Rule of Life (IVP). He lives in the Boston area with his wife Ruth and is the proud father of two grown children, Rebekah and Nathan, daughter in-love Ashley, and papa to his beloved granddaughter, Brenna Lynn and twin grandsons, Aiden Joseph and Carson Stephen. “My soul comes alive singing the great hymns of the church and enjoying the beauty of God’s creation. I’m in awe of God for fulfilling the dream for LTI that he birthed in my heart, for the team he has assembled, and the transformational impact experienced in the leaders and teams we serve.”

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