Host: Steve Macchia Guests: Gayle Heaslip, Matt Scott
“Hospitality of the soul is about a gracious welcome, not just a literal space. It’s a kind of inner spaciousness and unhurried quality that’s created within our hearts.” – Steve Macchia
What does it mean to practice hospitality—not just in our homes, but within our souls?
In this episode of The Discerning Leader Podcast, Steve Macchia welcomes Gayle Heaslip and Matt Scott for a rich conversation about soul hospitality—the practice of creating a spacious, welcoming place for God, ourselves, and others.
Together they explore how God invites us into a deeper relationship than we often expect, how we learn to embrace both the beautiful and broken parts of ourselves, and why cultivating an inner sanctuary becomes the foundation for offering grace-filled presence to others. They discuss the importance of wonder, attentive listening, and creating safe spaces where people can encounter the love and transforming presence of God. If you’ve ever longed for a deeper sense of God’s welcome—or wondered how to extend that welcome to others—this conversation offers a gentle invitation to slow down, make room, and discover the hospitality of the soul.
We’ve provided a 3 page Soul Care Audit that will offer you a handful of questions to consider how well you’re caring for your soul. You can download the PDF here and spend some time prayerfully reflecting on your current rhythms and practices.
Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Steve Macchia (Podcast Host)
Founder and President of Leadership Transformations,
Steve Macchia is the author of The Discerning Life, Becoming a Healthy Church, Broken and Whole, Crafting a Rule of Life and several other titles. Steve has over 40 years in ministry and two postgraduate degrees from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

Matt Scott (Season 40 Guest)
Matt serves on the LTI team as Creative Director. A graduate of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (MDiv) and the University of Mobile (Worship Leadership and Music Performance), Matt has served various churches in the area of worship and arts, community life, shepherding, and pastoral ministry. He and his wife, Kristen, live in Sioux Falls, SD with their two children, Emerson and Ashton. Matt enjoys building furniture, writing music and running.

Gayle Heaslip (Season 40 Guest)
Gayle Heaslip has a degree in counseling from Gordon-Conwell Seminary and having completed Selah’s spiritual direction training program, she is drawn to walk alongside others as they grow into the fullness of life the Lord supplies through both trials and triumphs. In addition to working with LTI and offering spiritual direction to individuals and groups, she is a priest in the Anglican Church of North America, serving a missional fellowship in Falmouth. Gayle delights in the ever-changing beauty of Cape Cod where she lives with her husband and close to their three grown children and eight grandchildren. Good books and conversation, hiking, writing and photography, and time alone to ponder are God’s gracious gifts to her. “I have been deeply formed over many years through LTI within its listening, companioning community, and I’m honored to walk with others in the Emmaus and Selah programs as we become more attentive and responsive to God’s presence.”
