Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Kim Alexander, Matt Scott
“A holy nap might be the most spiritual thing you do all week.” – Steve Macchia
In this reflective episode of the Discerning Leader podcast, Steve Macchia, Matt Scott, and Dr. Kim Alexander explore the deep spiritual practice of Sabbath rest and its impact on the soul. Moving beyond the idea of simply “stopping,” they unpack what it means to truly rest—embracing surrender, trust, and delight in God’s presence. Through personal stories, cultural observations, and spiritual insights, the conversation highlights the challenge of practicing Sabbath in a fast-paced, always-on world. Listeners are invited to reconsider Sabbath not as restriction, but as a life-giving rhythm of freedom, identity, and belovedness—an intentional space to be with God rather than merely doing for God.
We’ve provided a 3 page Soul Care Audit that will offer you a handful of questions to consider how well you’re caring for your soul. You can download the PDF here and spend some time prayerfully reflecting on your current rhythms and practices.
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Steve Macchia (Podcast Host)
Founder and President of Leadership Transformations,
Steve Macchia is the author of The Discerning Life, Becoming a Healthy Church, Broken and Whole, Crafting a Rule of Life and several other titles. Steve has over 40 years in ministry and two postgraduate degrees from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

Kim Alexander (Season 40 Guest)
Dr. Kimberly Alexander is the founder of Deeper Roots Soulcare whose mission is to nurture spiritual formation for individuals and organizational leaders through discernment and spirit-led practices. She finds joy in leading a 12 month contemplative mentoring journey – Authentic Intentional Mentoring (AIM). Kim is a licensed minister, trained spiritual director, preacher, mentor, professor/teacher, and leader of leaders. Having received training in spiritual direction through Selah, she now serves as senior faculty and supervisor for LTI’s Certificate in Spiritual Direction. She provides spiritual direction at WinShape’s Senior Pastor’s marriage retreats and at The Park Church in Charlotte, NC. Kim shares life and love with Bishop Claude R. Alexander, Jr., Senior Pastor of The Park Church, and their two daughters, Camryn and Carsyn. She can be found in Charlotte, NC enjoying long walks, popcorn and steaming cups of hot tea.
