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Old Testament Songs | Discerning God in Song Episode 01


Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Dave Currie

A song is the quickest route on the longest journey – 18 inches from the head to the heart and then back again.Dave Currie

Our own leadership discernment grows as we enter into others’ experience of noticing God in worship and song. We get to know others from around the world as we sing their songs. This has been true since the dawn of time, and is expressed throughout the Scriptures. In the Old Testament, particularly the Psalms, we find God’s people singing in times of triumph, lament, confession, thanksgiving, and praise. Words are the poetry that point us to God and the melody expresses the overflow of emotion. When we sing we pray twice. We hold songs in our heart.

To learn more about songs and their backgrounds:

For more information about “SAVIOR OF THE NATIONS, COME” by 4th C. Ambrose the Bishop of Milan, translated into German by Martin Luther and into English by William Reynolds:

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Steve Macchia

Steve Macchia (Podcast Host)
Founder and President of Leadership Transformations
Steve is the author of Becoming a Healthy ChurchBecoming a Healthy DiscipleBroken and WholeCrafting a Rule of Life and several other titles. Steve has over 40 years in ministry and two postgraduate degrees from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

Dave Currie (Season Ten Guest)
Vice-President of Cohort-Based Education, Dean of the Doctor of Ministry Program, and Professor of Pastoral Theology at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary
Dave serves on the faculty at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary as Vice-President of Cohort-Based Education, the Dean of the Doctor of Ministry Program, and as a Professor of Pastoral Theology. His wife is Susan, LTI’s Director of Selah. They are both ordained in the Anglican Church of North America and have three married adult children.

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Steve Macchia

Founder & President

Steve is a graduate of Northwestern College (IA) and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (M.Div. and D.Min.). His prior ministry includes serving on the pastoral staff at Grace Chapel (Lexington, MA) and as president of Vision New England. Since July 1, 2003 Steve has served as founder and president of Leadership Transformations, director of the Pierce Center for Disciple-Building, and adjunct faculty in the Doctor of Ministry department at Gordon-Conwell. He is the author of sixteen books, including The Discerning Life (Zondervan Reflective),  Baker bestseller Becoming a Healthy Church, and Crafting a Rule of Life (IVP). He lives in the Boston area with his wife Ruth and is the proud father of two grown children, Rebekah and Nathan, daughter in-love Ashley, and papa to his beloved granddaughter, Brenna Lynn and twin grandsons, Aiden Joseph and Carson Stephen. “My soul comes alive singing the great hymns of the church and enjoying the beauty of God’s creation. I’m in awe of God for fulfilling the dream for LTI that he birthed in my heart, for the team he has assembled, and the transformational impact experienced in the leaders and teams we serve.

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