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Relational Brokenness | Discerning God in our Brokenness Episode 05

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Genalin Niere-Metcalf

The more you know your own story, the more you will know your own brokenness and what triggers you relationally.” –Genalin Niere-Metcalf

Relational brokenness doesn’t have to stay that way. There are paths that lead us to wholeness, and on today’s episode we discover how. It all begins with understanding our own personal stories, the narratives that have shaped us over time. Unless we know our own hearts fully, it will remain difficult to love others fully. God invites us to trust him, urging us to build trust among others. Kindness, compassion, forgiveness and grace come from a heart that’s been healed and renewed. Listen today and ask God to strengthen and restore your relationships.

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Steve Macchia

Steve Macchia (Podcast Host)
Founder and President of Leadership Transformations
Steve is the author of Becoming a Healthy ChurchBecoming a Healthy DiscipleBroken and WholeCrafting a Rule of Life and several other titles. Steve has over 40 years in ministry and two postgraduate degrees from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

Susan Currie (Season Nine Guest)
Director of Selah & Minister of Spiritual Formation
Susan serves as the Director of Leadership Transformation Inc’s Selah Certificate Training Program in Spiritual Direction. Over the past 30 years, she has offered retreat leadership and formation ministry to various church and parachurch bodies. Susan also serves as Affiliated Clergy with All Saints’ Anglican Cathedral in Amesbury, MA.

Jeremy Stefano

Jeremy Stefano (Season Nine Guest)
Director of Emmaus & Minister of Spiritual Formation
Jeremy offers spiritual direction, leads retreats, teaches classes in spiritual formation and serves as the director of the Emmaus: Spiritual Leadership Community. The heartbeat of Jeremy’s calling is to encourage Christian leaders in the cultivation of their relationship with God. He has served churches as a local pastor, interim pastor and as a visiting Bible teacher in Southern Africa and North America. 

Genalin Niere-Metcalf (Season Nine Guest)
Selah-East Supervisor & Clinical Psychologist
Genalin has a deep love for the Church and has long served in many roles, which currently include: advisory council member with Grafted Life Ministries, psychologist at SamaraCare Counseling, and Supervisor for LTI’s Selah Certificate Training Program in Spiritual Direction.   She is married to Rodney, and they are proud parents of two children.

Kimberly Alexander (Season Nine Guest)
Selah-East Supervisor, Speech Language Pathologist, & Minister 
Kim has a passion for empowering women to live in the fullness of their relationship with Christ and leads the Women’s Ministry of The Park Church in Charlotte, NC. She is also a Supervisor for LTI’s Selah Certificate Training Program in Spiritual Direction. Kim shares life with her husband, Bishop Claude Alexander, Jr. and their two daughters Camryn and Carsyn. 

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Steve Macchia

Founder & President

Steve is a graduate of Northwestern College (IA) and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (M.Div. and D.Min.). His prior ministry includes serving on the pastoral staff at Grace Chapel (Lexington, MA) and as president of Vision New England. Since July 1, 2003 Steve has served as founder and president of Leadership Transformations, director of the Pierce Center for Disciple-Building, and adjunct faculty in the Doctor of Ministry department at Gordon-Conwell. He is the author of sixteen books, including The Discerning Life (Zondervan Reflective),  Baker bestseller Becoming a Healthy Church, and Crafting a Rule of Life (IVP). He lives in the Boston area with his wife Ruth and is the proud father of two grown children, Rebekah and Nathan, daughter in-love Ashley, and papa to his beloved granddaughter, Brenna Lynn and twin grandsons, Aiden Joseph and Carson Stephen. “My soul comes alive singing the great hymns of the church and enjoying the beauty of God’s creation. I’m in awe of God for fulfilling the dream for LTI that he birthed in my heart, for the team he has assembled, and the transformational impact experienced in the leaders and teams we serve.

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